Is endogamy or pedigree collapse affecting your ability to work with your DNA matches? What’s the difference, how can you tell and what can you do about them? Check out these strategies you can try now.
What’s the difference between endogamy and pedigree collapse, and what can you do about them? And where do multiple relationships come into play on your family tree (and in your DNA)?
Watch this introductory video tutorial, then read more below (if you learn better that way).
The difference between endogamy and pedigree collapse
Pedigree collapse is a specific instance of when two genetically-related people have children together (like first-cousin or second-cousin marriages). This was quite common in the past, and even now in some cultures. The result for a family tree is that it “collapses” at the top. Instead of getting ever-wider as it goes back in time, the same ancestral couples appear multiple times over.
Most of us should expect to see this on our family trees at least once or twice, especially the further back in time we go.
Endogamy is essentially when pedigree collapse happens over and over and over again. Descendants of people who lived in small or isolated communities end up sharing a significant amount of DNA over time because the people intermarried so often. But you don’t have a single recent common ancestor with these DNA matches.
How to spot endogamy or pedigree collapse
Here are several strategies to help you spot—and begin to deal with—the repercussions of endogamy or pedigree collapse on your DNA matching experience. The first two are paper-trail strategies. Then it’s time to look at DNA.
1. Look for pedigree collapse on your tree.
This sounds obvious, and it is, but sometimes we don’t realize that the same people are showing up on what we thought were different lines on our family trees. Sort your family tree by name and see if duplicates show up. Sometimes it’s because you’ve accidentally duplicated someone’s profile. But sometimes you’ll find names that actually DO appear in more than one spot.
In the tree shown here, Charlie and Cindy, who married and had children, were actually first cousins. So Adam and Anna, their shared grandparents, actually appear twice in their tree (I’ve just collapsed it down to one shared spot visually).
If you can see one or two distinct events, you can account for these when working with your DNA matches.
2. Look for endogamy in your known ancestral communities.
Do you know if you descend from historical populations or places where you might expect to see endogamy? According to the ISOGG Wiki, “Examples of endogamous groups include Jews, Polynesians, Low German Mennonites, the Amish, Acadians or Cajuns (French settlers in what is now Nova Scotia, Canada), French Canadians, people from many Arab countries, people from Newfoundland and people from many islands. Endogamy is also a problem in early Colonial American populations.”
But these more commonly-known examples aren’t the only endogamous populations. Consider whether your relatives came from small or isolated communities where people may have frequently intermarried over several generations. In the interview with Connie, I shared a case study about my ancestor who came from a small town in Italy. I hadn’t thought of that line previously as affected by endogamy, but it is!
Not sure what historical communities your ancestors belonged to? Explore your Genetic Groups at MyHeritage, Genetic Communities at Ancestry, or Recent Ancestor Locations at 23andMe
3. Try sorting your matches into distinct groups.
Here at Your DNA Guide, and especially in the DNA Skills Workshop, we teach people how to sort their DNA matches into genetic networks that represent distinct family lines. My favorite method is using Ancestry’s dot system. You can also use the Leeds method or MyHeritage’s AutoClusters tool.
If none of your ancestors in recent generations were related to each other, your DNA matches should sort neatly into distinct groups. If there’s some overlap—you can’t sort your relatives into separate groups—then it’s time to look for pedigree collapse or endogamy.
4. Look at largest shared segment size.
Most of the DNA testing companies now report not just the total amount of DNA you share with your matches, but the size of the largest piece of DNA.
The size of the pieces matters! A longer intact piece of shared DNA indicates closer genetic relationships than the same amount of DNA that comes to you in the little tiny pieces that indicate relation by endogamy.
Your DNA testing company may (or may not) be providing some sort of corrected DNA match results that account for endogamy. Example: AncestryDNA’s unique Timber algorithm helps correct for some endogamous DNA sharing.
DNA & Endogamy
Let’s face it. Endogamy is complicated and it messes with our ability to analyze and understand what our DNA matches might otherwise tell us. That’s why we’ve worked so hard to give you access to more information out about DNA and Endogamy.
Endogamy & DNA Course
If you have (or strongly suspect) endogamy on your family tree, take our Endogamy & DNA Course. Developed and tested by our expert DNA team, this Course teaches straightforward strategies for addressing endogamy more productively. We’ll help you tease apart whether you’re looking at endogamy, multiple relationships…or maybe some of each. We’ll help you set reasonable goals for your DNA analysis. And we’ll share the nuances in how the various testing companies adjust (or not) for endogamy, so you can understand what you’re seeing in your AncestryDNA, 23andMe, MyHeritage, or Family Tree DNA results.
Hello, great video! I also purchased the book. I’m adopted and looking at my dna matches and not sure if I shall consider them endogamy or pedigree. for matches over 100 and between 170; how many chromosomes should be bigger than 15-20 to weed out the low ones? If a match has 4 chromosomes over 20 then is that considered pedigree or endogamy? what about another match with 1 over 20 but has 4 over 15?
This is an interesting way to think about this question.
Not sure I have a direct answer for you.
They way to tell if you have endogamy is to try to divide your match list into groups. If you can’t, meaning that every match is related to all the other matches, then you have endogamy.
Oh dear… no wonder I am having such a hard time building my tree. It seems everyone comes from the same village in Greece. I am dying here! But you guys are so wonderful. I am going to buy your book. I have no choice. Born to a Greek immigrant in 1964 and placed in foster care my whole life. I know nothing about my birth father but my dna matches on Ancestry, MyHeritage and 23andme seem to cross over to the same people. I just can find a break in the ancestors to divide between mother and father matches. Or I am being a big drama queen and not doing it right.
I needed to watch this. I adore Connie! And I thank her for bringing Ms. Suthard on for this topic. No wonder I am exhausted! lol ( I could be wrong about the endogamy, that is why I am going to buy the book)
Best Melina Barry
Perfect timing – we will be starting our next class on Endogamy on October 17th (link below). If you end up choosing to participate in the class, you will receive a coupon code for the book as well.
If you’re not sure you’re quite ready to be taking a class, we are always on hand for a one-on-one mentoring session with one of our genetic genealogists (link below). Either way – we CAN help you do the DNA! 🙂
https://www.yourdnaguide.com/endogamy
https://www.yourdnaguide.com/thementor
This is a VERY interesting topic to me because …. I have a tree of 3500 ancestors including plenty of fourth cousins. So you’d think that a DNA match would be fairly easy to place on my tree. But no. When I got my DNA results a year ago, one match was already on my tree, and I discovered one new one by exchanging emails. I am totally stumped about another 40(?) that I contacted. FWIW, MyHeritage guesses I am 98.9% Jewish. I have so much trouble making conclusions from DNA that I don’t even know what it means to “work with DNA”. To me, “working with DNA” means “look at the DNA results and then … have a sandwich.” The MyHeritgage AutoClusters feature puts people into groups, and I ask those people if they know how they could be related to me or to the others, but it always leads nowhere. How would your Endogamy Course help me?
Good question! I recommend clicking this link to learn more about our Endogamy and DNA Course: https://www.yourdnaguide.com/endogamy
Hi. Great video. I am still a little confused though. My paternal grandmother’s parents are 3rd cousins. Each one descends from a child of my 5th great grandfather. On my paternal grandfather’s side, both my grandfather’s parents are descendents of Valerio B’s. I can’t tell how they are related, but I am sure one of either Pedigree collapse or endogamy is at work here. I have traced both Valerio’s back to being my 7th great grandfathers.